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My peeps are the ones who frustrate everyone by refusing to fill out paperwork and just get something over with, those who favor the quixotic to the practical, but I respect those non-perfectionists out there, because I don't see how they have the motivation to just continue doing some of the work every time. I give them credit for doing that. I need the feeling that I've done something well. I do think people have characteristic levels of perfectionism, but it is the rare person who doesn't have some domains where they just try to get some things done. To be passable so they don't have to think about those things anymore. For me, that's probably going through my mail and brushing my teeth. Try as I might, I will rush through brushing my teeth while I space out.

I won't completely overlook that sometimes we have a responsibility to others, and that half-assing a task in a family context is not necessarily harmless. But I think we can start from the standpoint of happiness, and if someone is happy half-assing, I say, more power to them. The thing is, however, that not everyone is. One would think the end product would reflect what one wanted, but that's not always the case. The extent to which you do what you would ideally want, the extent that your controllable performance matches your intention, is what psychologists call self-efficacy. Not speaking as a psychologist, but just with common sense, people can be held back either because they don't know quite how to do the task (I always leave my mom's special cooking stuff out and don't put it away because I don't want to bother to figure out where it goes), or because, for some reason, doing the task is so psychologically scary that they flee the field.

Differences in self-efficacy aside, I generally think people's behavior will change in accordance with what they want. We have all seen particular kids and are unable to imagine how they are ever going to grow up, they seem so far from adults. But when they start wanting adult things, lo and behold, they start acting differently, working backwards from their goals. However, you suggest the young generations betray a malady of not completing their tasks that is new, and that does suggest something else is going on societally, and motivation is not just a natural process. From what I've heard college professors say, they would agree with this.

Here's a question for you. Are we really suffering from a crisis in discipline, or one in excellence as well? It really is very hard to do great work without tenacity, I think, no less for artists than for anyone else. So that is the concern for me. It's not lapsed discipline for lapsed discipline's sake that concerns me.

I made the questionable decision many months ago to reread "War and Peace" here and there, a page at a time, and that quotation of Algirdis Landsbergis reminds me of what I am engaging with in the second epilogue. Tolstoy chastises both those who think politicians and generals change history, and those who think writers do. He thinks the claim that writers have the power to influence history is absurd and just reflects a wishful thinking born of their being writers. He thinks physical and literal power is necessary to direct power, and even heads of state only hold this indirectly, by directing people who direct people who direct people. Yet, Tolstoy was very much a patriot (he uses "we" in discussing the Russians in the 1812 war), and Pierre says, "When I am absorbed by an idea, nothing else is serious." So his thoughts about idealism are complicated.

My own view is I think it's absurd how we run right to a politician when we look to name a bridge or street. To me, since they are practical first and foremost, politicians are almost not great by default. We are already too quick to remember them before other people. Why should memorials worsen this tendency? Greats are people who create, as artists do, not people who make the best use of others' ideas, as politicians do.

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Patty Dann's avatar

talented family!

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